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Date: May 11, 1987 16:41
From: ERNIE::ARVIDSON
To: MARGOLIN,ARVIDSON
I talked to Glen Miller, the sales rep for MuRata. He would like to obtain pricing. What was the small quantity that you wanted to order now? What production quantities would you like pricing for? The question came up as to which values are matched to 0.25%; we assume that 1K's are matched to each other and that 2K's are matched to each other. Am I correct is assuming that the 1K's and 2K's are matched to each other also? He said that these would have to be special ordered since none of the resistors are matched to 0.25%. erwin
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Date: May 11, 1987 17:48
From: KIM::MARGOLIN
To: ARVIDSON,MARGOLIN
Irwin, I am sending you a copy of my correspondance on the R2R Ladder Network. The question of what matches within 0.25% has never come up before. In order for this thing to work, each "R" must be within 0.25% of every other "R". Since "R" is nominally 1K, 0.25% is 2.5 ohms so that each "R" is plus or minus 2.5 Ohms and each "2R" is plus or minus 5.0 Ohms. If the "R"s don't track with the "2R"s, it doesn't work. The absolute tolerance on "R" is not critical, only the relative tolerance. 2 April 1987 Atari Games Corp. 675 Sycamore Drive P.O. Box 361110 Milpitas, CA 95035-1110 Richard Ponce de Leon Brooks Technical Group 883 Stierlin Road Mountain View, CA 94043 Dear Richard, As Evelyn suggested I am faxing the drawing for the R2R Resistor Network for which I would like a quote. I would like the quote for quantities of 1K, 5K, 10K, and 25K. I expect the game that I am considering this part for will be produced in the 3rd Quarter this year. I would also like cost and delivery information for 100 prototype units. Sincerely yours, Jed Margolin Senior Staff EE Atari Games Corporation 4/22/87 From Richard Ponce de Leon NRE for Soft Tooling and 10 prototypes - $250. [8-10 weeks] NRE for Soft Tooling and 50 prototypes - $300. [8-10 weeks] NRE for Hard Tooling - $250. [18 weeks] 25K 10K 5K 1K ----- ----- ----- ----- $0.38 $0.43 $0.49 $1.14 24 April 1987 Atari Games Corp. 675 Sycamore Drive P.O. Box 361110 Milpitas, CA 95035-1110 Jim Calhoun Moulthrop Sales Dear Mr. Calhoun, As Judy suggested I am faxing the drawing for the R2R Resistor Network for which I would like a quote. I would like the quote for quantities of 1K, 5K, 10K, and 25K. I expect the game that I am considering this part for will be produced in the 3rd Quarter this year. I would also like cost and delivery information for 100 prototype units. I have included the quote from LTI that you got for us three years ago but you may select whatever company you feel is most appropriate. Sincerely yours, Jed Margolin Senior Staff EE Atari Games Corporation Phone: (408) 434-1730 FAX: (408) 434-3776 5/6/87 from Moulthrop Sales, Janet LTI Resistor Network: 100 prototypes - $3.15 ea + $400 NRE 6-7 weeks ARO 1K 5K 10K 25K ----- ----- ----- ----- $0.63 $0.46 $0.43 $0.38
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Date: May 20, 1987 17:00
From: ERNIE::ARVIDSON
To: MARGOLIN,ARVIDSON
Jim Calhoun representing Panasonic tried to contact you to discuss your requirements. The best that they would be able to do in the area of matching is 0.5% instead of 0.25%. The absolute value tolerance would be 2%. Jim wanted to find out if you could live with 0.5% matching. erwin
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Date: May 20, 1987 18:14
From: KIM::MARGOLIN
To: ARVIDSON,MARGOLIN
I have quotes from Centralab and from LTI for R2R Networks which I got as a response to my drawing which specified 0.25% matching. For an 8 bit network, 0.25% gives an accuracy of 0.64 LSB. 0.5% would give an accuracy of 1.28 LSB. Since this figure is greater than one LSB, there would be no point using 8 bits. I want to stay with 0.25% matching, especially since we have quotes from two companies who say they can do it. The quote from LTI came via Moulthrop Sales which also employs a gentleman by the name of Jim Calhoun. (Could he be the very same Jim Calhoun referred to in your message?) Jed
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Date: May 21, 1987 07:33
From: ERNIE::ARVIDSON
To: KIM::MARGOLIN,ARVIDSON
OK on the 0.25%. Yes, it's the same Jim Calhoun. I wonder why he didn't mention LTI. Maybe he assumed that I knew about the LTI quote. I'll watch for other potential sources. erwin
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Date: May 28, 1987 16:32
From: ERNIE::ARVIDSON
To: MARGOLIN,ARVIDSON
The Atari part number is 118015-001
May 11, 1987