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abel4 vms

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I have some good news, some bad news and some good news.

The good news: Abel4 is up on the VAX (it has been for a couple of 
weeks now). It has several nice new features if you are into that 
sort of thing.

The bad news: There are bugs in abel4 on the VAX.

The good news: I am documenting the bugs do that you don't have to 
waste time finding them. 

The two I know about at this time are:
Arguments in a MODULE statement. : If you try using an argument list, 
you get a strange undocumented error in your pin statements.
Solution: if it hurts when you do it, then don't do it. DATA I/O do 
not expect to fix this until the next release of the VAX software. I 
wouldn't hold my breath for that. I wouldn't be surprised if they 
phased out the VAX version. If you must have different compilation 
options controlled outside the file then you can play games with 
include files.

The cascading negation in pin statements : If you have multiple pins 
in a pin statement and you negate one of them e.g. a,!b,c,d pin 1 2 3 4;
the software negates all the pins in the list after the first negation.
I.E the software will treat it as if you have a,!b,!c,!d pin 1 2 3 4;
Solution: Use a seperate pin statement for every pin.

This last bug was hard to find because of the new .doc file format 
and pla file structure. When a .abl file is read in it converts all 
the inputs to active hi and transforms the equations correspondingly. 
The equations in the .doc file reflect this. 

RE: abel4 vms

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Since the new ABEL is crap why don't you put the old one back or at least
make it available. The bugs you have mentioned mean I cannot use many of
my old files without converting them.

Regards,

Jed

RE: abel4 vms

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The old version (3.1) has not moved, and will not be moving. Use it 
as you always did.

					Pat.
Message 1 of 3

Jul 23, 1991