An accident happened today when the shredding was put out for Mobile 
Shredding to shred, it was thrown in the dumpster!

   This was an unfortunate misunderstanding but the question been asked 
if it is necessary to search thru the muck to retrieve it, so it can be 
shredded before throwing it away.  I don't know so I'm asking for your 
opinion; send replies to OHARA, or a note in the mail will do and I will 
forward them on and keep record for future reference.

   While I'm on my soapbox a couple of other points:

       A.  I see no reason why end sheets need to be shredded, yet 1/3 to 1/2 
of the shredding I pick up is just the sheets that come at the end of listings 
and such.  This cost the company $25 to 35 worth of corporate money each month 
or so ($400 a year or more).
       B.  The shredding is not trash despite the fact that it eventually ends 
up there, I do not appreciate the candy wrappers and such that seem to find their 
way into the shredding.

     enuff said and apologies to those who don't need to hear this


                                                         james

Item 1:
	Let me see if I have this right.

	You want to use expensive Programmers' time to separate the end sheets
	of program listings so you can save $25 per month?

	Also, I disagree that the end sheets are unimportant. The end sheets
	would allow an individual to know what programs people are working
	on. People generally choose program titles representative of
	their content. The end sheets would tell an industrial spy what programs
	to target for acquisition.

	I expect you are already saving more than $25 per month from the 
	execrable printer paper you bought.


Item 2:
	As I understand it, the reason for shredding things is to prevent them
	from falling into the hands of our competitors.

	I use the shred pile to get rid of old schematics (although, 
	fortunately, not this month).

	I would not like the result of my last two years' work wasted because
	you did not think it was all that important to have things properly 
	shredded.

       I do not intend to make the programmers rip sheets off some people do
 as a matter of course.  I agree with your point about the names it didn't
 occur to me until now.  I, however, break my back weekly cleaning up the
 mess in the printer room and sometimes this gets to me.  Further, is my
 time more valuable picking up what may not be confidential (not everything
 is) proctecting it from some hypothetical 'spy' or is it more valuable
 for me to make sure everyone is properly supplied?
       As far as the 'execrable' paper is concerned everyone told me that
 it was no big deal what the quality of the paper was so I did the obvious
 thing and have been paying for it ever since.  Note if you need better
 quality paper for some project all you need to do is ask, you HAVEN'T
 so far.
                              I'm sorry you got bent out of shape
                                                james

     Thank you all for your responses, it is clear to me that alot could be read
 into a name.  I will make sure that things are taken care of more responsibly
 in the future.
     However, wouldn't it be more confidential to shred things right away, for
 example; have a shredder in the printer room (they are made to feed like trash
 cans and are somewhat sealed so the dust is minimal and don't sound any louder
 then a line printer these days) and shred the stuff daily and have the janitors
 throw it away every night.  This would heighten the security of our operation
 somewhat, since it now stacks up in the warehouse until there are enough boxes
 to make it worthwhile to call Mobile Shredding, the boxes are unattended, and
 not locked up (no room for this).
                              just a suggestion, thanks
                                                       james

We had our own shredder and did our own shredding. When it broke the company
decided not to fix it because sending it out was supposedly cheaper.

By the way, the printer room is scheduled to disappear. The printers will go
in the computer room. (Bad place for a shredder.)

Nonetheless, it would be nice to have our own shredder again.


		Jed

     I agree, new shredders have been sealed somewhat to cut down on the dust
 whether this is enough or not I don't know.  Also a shredder up to the volume
 we seem to generate costs about $3 or 4 grand.
     Also, please except my apologies for snapping back at you yesterday.
                                       thanks
                                             james